If Sterek wouldn’t be an option endgame (and I still believe it’s not) and as much as I love Sterek… I would’ve rather had Stiles develope a relationship with Cora over Malia. Don’t get me wrong, I love Malia… just not with Stiles.
This is a very thoughtful, very well stated examination of Vaatu, the spirit world and the interaction with humans/the physical world.
I think the issues surrounding Vaatu, mostly come into play because of the way in which, even though he’s supposed to be the spirit of chaos and the opposite of light—though I’m not entirely convinced that I would call Raava a spirit of peace—it’s being portrayed in very, Western-like ways.
Good and evil. Black and white.
Thank you. =D
I completely agree with you here — Raava and Vaatu really seem to be playing into Western archetypes more than anything… and that’s part of the reason why I’m so suspicious of everything that we seem to know.
They’re pretty much simplifying the two in very definitive terms. If anything, it seems as though Vaatu is more an advocate for spirtis and Raava is more an advocate for humans—even though initially upon meeting Wan she was quite condescending towards humans, or at least Wan.
The impression I got from Raava in the beginning was that even she wasn’t an advocate for humans. Her nature drove her to act in ways that were beneficial to humanity as a consequence, but she didn’t really seem to care about the collateral damage of her struggle with Vaatu, and fought with him more because that was her nature than because there was something she wanted to protect.
It kind of goes back to Yangchen’s statement about why the Avatar needs to take human incarnation:
Aang: But it made me wonder - why is the Avatar Spirit a human in every life? Wouldn’t it be better if the Avatar was an all-powerful spirit that never died?
Yangchen: I don’t think so.
Yangchen: The Avatar must be compassionate towards all people… and the only way to do that is to live with them.
Yangchen: The Avatar must experience sadness… Anger… Joy…and happiness.
Yangchen: By feeling all these emotions, it helps you understand how precious human life is…. so you will do anything to protect it.
Yangchen: If you were an all-powerful spirit living on the top of some mountain…. you wouldn’t have much in common with an ordinary person.
Yangchen: So the Avatar continues to take human rebirth. And with each life, learns what it means to be human.
Given what we know now, that isn’t actually a hypothetical. Raava by herself can’t understand how precious human life is. She needs to be bound to a human soul to understand that, to be driven to do anything to protect it.
The Avatar itself is an advocate for humanity, but it’s a fusion between Wan’s soul and Raava rather than Raava herself. Before Wan came along, the only advocates for humanity were the lion-turtles.
Vaatu’s probably not an advocate for the spirits either, except insofar as they feel disenfranchised by the Avatar using its power for the benefit of humanity at their expense. The meerkat spirits and Wan Shi Tong certainly didn’t seem to have any use for an Avatar, in any case (and even the spirits that Korra befriended didn’t seem particularly interested in her being the Avatar).
I will say, that this season (as opposed to the Aang series) portrays the spirit world as a much more welcoming, less bleak and dangerous area (to humans), which might have a lot to do with the fact that for one, we now know that the Avatar maintains within them the spirit Raava and that her, opponent, is the “evil” Vaatu, and they may be trying to play up that difference even more with the different perspectives of the spirit world (as we saw in the latest episode).
We saw so little of the Spirit World in A:tLA that I’m not sure I’d say it’s less bleak and dangerous this time around so much as that the only parts that were relevant in A:tLA were the dangerous parts. The area surrounding Koh’s lair was kind of dreary, but the only spirit who actually threatened Aang was Koh himself. Wan Shi Tong had essentially the same attitude when we met him in LoK as he did when we left him in A:tLA. If anything, I’d say the Spirit World is even more dangerous this time around, because it’s so unpredictable — sure, things will go well as long as you keep a positive attitude, but as soon as things start going wrong, friends turn to foes and the whole world wants to eat you.
Obviously a world with just Raava would be just as un-ideal as a world where Vaatu was the presiding greater spirit. I would imagine that, as you said, most spirits at least are chaotic neutral, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t outliers. Those who are evil, and those who are good. The spirit that stole faces comes to mind. I guess you could argue that perhaps this is an influence of Vaatu, and while I wouldn’t entirely discount it, I think that it may be a bit of a stretch and that it certainly does not give enough credit to spirits having a conscience or rather, a will and personality of their own that is free and uninfluenced by outside forces.
I don’t know if it makes sense to call Koh evil… he’s always come off as being a Blue And Orange Morality guy to me. =/ He’s dangerous to humans (or anything else with a face, really), but his mind isn’t really human enough to call him evil.
(It certainly seems more likely that he’d support Vaatu rather than Raava, though. Or maybe not. He seemed irritated that Kuruk wasn’t doing his job as Avatar, so maybe he does have some sort of desire for balance. It’s kind of hard to say)
When I think of Vaatu and Raava, I imagine instead that these two should be less warring in nature. That there should be a quiet peace or wisdom about them. That Vaatu should not be so hungry for power and dominance, and that neither would Raava be so desperate to keep him in check. These are supposed to be old spirits—I imagine like the two characters at the end of the Matrix trilogy. Old friends who are also, old foes. Who have entered into this game a thousand times before, and will continue playing it a thousand times after. They aren’t really evil, and neither are they really good. They balance one another and hold just as many “undesirable” qualities as the other.
Yeah, that certainly seems like the ideal way for this to end up. And, if Vaatu really is influenced by humanity’s misunderstanding of darkness and chaos, it could still end up that way.
"Creative genuis."…. Right… let me first point out that I could probably do better writing just using my ass, and second… I honestly don’t even enjoy Teen wolf anymore. I tune in every Monday just to stay current. I enjoy the fanficiton world on AO3 created by all the amazing writers out there a lot more than the actual show, and also the Avatar-verse I created. Putting the TW characters in an A:TLA setting. And yes, when I’m finished with the entire thing I will be posting it.
Excuse me while I go back to S3 LOK and it’s amazing plotline and great character development.
I’m honestly not so surprised. I’m actually kind of disappointed that she was revealed to be the Benefactor all along, at least until I see more behind that story.